Date : Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:12:45 +0100
From : owner-bbc-micro@...
Subject: Re: Broken message headers on this mailing list
Hi
Just change the destination of the message (the To: box or whatever it is on
your email system) from the person's personal email address to
<bbc-micro@...>. For example, when I replied to this message I
subsituted <bbc-micro@...> for <jgh@...>. Then send.
This should have been explained on the email automatically sent to you when
you originally joined the list.
Hope this helps.
CD
-----Original Message-----
From: jgh@... [mailto:jgh@...]
Sent: 29 April 2002 08:56
To: bbc-micro@...
Subject: [BBC-Micro] Broken message headers on this mailing list
I'm sorry to keep banging on about this, but something HAS to be done.
Who on earth is the list administrator, please do something!
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the message headers that originate from
this mailing list that allows somebody to reply back to the list, and not
to the author of the individual message.
There is no Reply-To header, and the From header lists the author, viz:
From: "Mark de Weger" <mark@...>
Consequently, the ONLY place a Reply can go to is back to the author of a
message. This is getting EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!!!!!
Also, the To: header does not specify the recipient. My mail server is
about to move to a system of silently destroying all emails that do not
specify the actual recipent in the To: header, as they look like spam.
You may comment that I should use a different mail provideder. NO! I
*WANT* messages that look as though they are spam to be destroyed. It is
the responsibility of responsible message generators that are not spam to
ensure they do not look like spam.
At the end of this message I have appended the entire headers from a
recently-received message. Absolutely nowhere does
"bbc-micro@..." appear, other than in the To: header. As I've
already mentioned, the To: header should have my email address in it,
otherwise it is defined as being spam. The From: header lists the author
of the message - that's correct. But there is nothing to specify how to
post back to the mailing list.
On the other hand, another mailing list I subscribe to *does* provide
useful headers. Cut down, they are as follows:
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>From news@... Tue Apr 23 15:53:09 2002
To: jgh@...
ReplyTo: comp.os.cpm@...
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Is it posible to get CP/M to work with Linux/DOSemu?
From: Dowe Keller <dowe@...>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:00:05 -0400
Message-Id: <E16zuHV-0002fq-00@...>
----8<----
It passes the spam-filter, as it's destination is my actual email address.
The From: header correctly specifies the author, and the Reply-To: header
correctly specifies the posting address to send a message back to the
list. Also, there is the added usefulness of a Newsgroups: header that
identifies the group it is a part of.
Whoever is the adminstrator please, Please, *PLEASE*!!!!! ensure the To:
and Reply-To: headers appear correctly.
These are the entire headers from a recently received message:
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>From owner-bbc-micro@... Sat Sep 8 21:35:27 2001
Return-Path: <owner-bbc-micro@...>
Received: from punt-21.mail.demon.net by arcade.demon.co.uk
id AA121441 for jgh; Sat, 08 Sep 2001 20:35:26 GMT
Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for jgh@...
id 999973374:20:18821:2; Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:22:54 GMT
Received: from thagdal.cloud9.co.uk ([194.154.180.82]) by punt-2.mail.demon.
net
id aa2128917; 8 Sep 2001 18:22 GMT
Received: (from uucp@...)
by custard.cloud9.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23320;
Sat, 8 Sep 2001 19:22:19 +0100
Received: from gluttony.corp.cloud9.co.uk(10.0.0.1), claiming to be
"cloud9.co.
uk"
via SMTP by custard.corp.cloud9.co.uk, id smtpdujn3zM; Sat Sep 8 19:22:15
2001
Received: (from majordomo@...)
by cloud9.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03745
for bbc-micro-outgoing; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 19:19:50 +0100
Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl(195.121.6.54)
via SMTP by custard.cloud9.co.uk, id smtpdS9ysDw; Sat Sep 8 19:19:40 2001
Received: from pentiumii ([195.121.232.142]) by smtp02.wxs.nl
(Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GJCW8Q02.HSG; Sat,
8 Sep 2001 20:19:38 +0200
From: "Mark de Weger" <mark@...>
To: "BBC mailing list" <bbc-micro@...>, <Garyjferg@...>
Subject: [BBC-Micro] RE:
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:19:16 +0200
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