Date : Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:01:32 +0100
From : "C Alastair Seggie" <alastairseggie@...>
Subject: Re:
Hi Mark
Here is what it said when the G command was used in XFER4.
Unrecognised disc format, drive 0 has 82432 bytes
Disc 0 returned size is not a whole number of tracks
♀
Any Ideas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Marky [mailto:mark.bbc@...]
Sent: 25 August 2003 19:09
To: C Alastair Seggie
Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro]
What happens if you try the XFER (G)et Disc Image ( Which copies the
individual tracks ) ?
I have modified the Basic Program so that the Get disc image works:
http://www.thefatguy.co.uk/bbc/xfer4/XFER-M1$.zip
You'll have to transfer this version of XFER to the BBC then run it...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, C Alastair Seggie wrote:
| Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:36:43 +0100
| From: C Alastair Seggie <alastairseggie@...>
| To: bbc-micro@...
| Subject: [BBC-Micro]
|
| Thanks for the replies to my earlier questions.
|
| I am now having a problem copying a Protected Disc.
|
| The original disk is a factory produced disk 40 track DSDD. The second
| side is blank. I have three (factory) copies of this and the all
behave
| the same. There is a file called CNCDRAW, I am unsure of it's function
| as If I try to load it, it gives the same disc error as below.
|
| Essentially there are two problems:
| 1) I am using ADI200, to copy these there seems to be some
skewing
| of the sectors and tracks 33&34 have no sectors. Apart from that I can
| see no other problems. When I copy these they copy fine and verify
fine.
| When I run the program (menu driven CNC program) it loads and runs
fine,
| but when I ask it to load a specific file into the CNC simulation it
| gets errors and exits to the prompt. On the original disk this does
not
| happen.
| What are the settings you would recommend and any advice would be
| apprieciated.
|
| 2) When trying to XFER the disc to PC I get the following
listing
| $.CNCDRAW 000000 000000 002000 00A
| Then it says transferring and the file size is 3062. It makes a noise
as
| if the drive is on the wrong track setting and comes back with this
| error
| DISC FAULT AT :0 0F/00 AT LINE 1350
| If I switch the drive over to 80 track when it makes its noise I get
the
| following error
| DISC FAULT AT 0 0E/00 AT LINE 1350
|
| Now for some other info that may or may not be helpful. I have some
| software written by the same company for a CNC milling Machine, it is
on
| a 80 track disc DSDD but these have hand written labels Indicating
that
| they were copied. It also has this CNCDRAW file (but the file size is
| smaller at 2560) and it gives exactly the same problem when trying to
| xfer it across. The error I get is the same for the 40 or 80 track
| switch setting: DISC FAULT AT 0 01/00 AT LINE 1350
|
| Is the "LINE 1350" referring to the XFER ? or to the file its trying
to
| transfer?
|
| I don't have these discs for long as they need to be sent back on
| tues/wed this week.
|
| Alastair
|
|
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Hi Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Here is what it said when the G command was used in<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>XFER4.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><b><font size=2 face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console";font-weight:bold'>Unrecognised
disc format, drive 0 has 82432 bytes<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><b><font size=2 face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console";font-weight:bold'>Disc 0 returned
size is not a whole number of tracks<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><b><font size=2 face="Lucida Console"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console";font-weight:bold'>=1B$B!j=1B(J<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Any
Ideas?</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Marky [mailto:mark.bbc@...<span class=GramE>] <br>
Sent</span>: 25 August 2003 19:09<br>
To: C Alastair Seggie<br>
Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro] </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>What happens if you try the XFER (G)et Disc Image ( Which copies
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>individual tracks ) ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I have modified the Basic Program so that the Get disc image
works:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>http://www.thefatguy.co.uk/bbc/xfer4/XFER-M1$.zip
n></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>You'll have to transfer this version of XFER to the BBC then run
it...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, C Alastair Seggie
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:36:43
+0100<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| From: C Alastair Seggie
<alastairseggie@...><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| To: bbc-micro@...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Subject: [BBC-Micro] <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Thanks for the replies to my earlier
questions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| I am now having a problem copying a Protected Disc.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| The original disk is a factory produced disk 40 track DSDD.
The
second<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| side is blank. I have three (factory) copies of this and the
all
behave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| the same. There is a file called CNCDRAW, I am unsure of it's
function<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| as If I try to load it, it gives the same disc error as
below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Essentially there are two
problems:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| 1)<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>I am using ADI200, to copy these there seems to be some
skewing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| of the sectors and tracks 33&34 have no sectors. Apart
from that
I can<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| see no other problems. When I copy these they copy fine and
verify
fine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| When I run the program (menu driven CNC program) it loads and
runs
fine,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| but when I ask it to load a specific file into the CNC
simulation it<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| gets errors and exits to the prompt. On the original disk this
does
not<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| What are the settings you would recommend and any advice would
be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| apprieciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| 2)<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>When trying to XFER the disc to PC I get the following
listing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| $.CNCDRAW<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> &nbs
p;
</span>000000<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>000000<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>002000<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>00A<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Then it says transferring and the file size is 3062. It makes
a noise
as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| if the drive is on the wrong track setting and comes back with
this<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| error<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| DISC FAULT AT :0 0F/00 AT LINE
1350<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| If I switch the drive over to 80 track when it makes its noise
I get
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| following error<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| DISC FAULT AT 0 0E/00 AT LINE
1350<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Now for some other info that may or may not be helpful. I have
some<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| software written by the same company for a CNC milling
Machine, it is
on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| a 80 track disc DSDD but these have hand written labels
Indicating
that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| they were copied. It also has this CNCDRAW file (but the file
size is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| smaller at 2560) and it gives exactly the same problem when
trying to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| xfer it across. The error I get is the same for the 40 or 80
track<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| switch setting: DISC FAULT AT 0 01/00 AT LINE
1350<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Is the "LINE 1350" referring to the XFER ? or to the
file
its trying to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| transfer?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| I don't have these discs for long as they need to be sent back
on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| tues/wed this week.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| Alastair<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>|<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'>| <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> &nbs
p;
</span>_\\///_ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> &nbs
p;
</span>(' O-O ')<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
10.0pt'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>/---ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------------------------\<o:p></
o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:
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</span><------ Mark Wilson
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