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Date   : Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:52:38 +0000
From   : Richard Kilpatrick <oldcomputers@...>
Subject: Re: Tube ULAs

> Duh - actually yes you did already send one, I just found it :-)

As always, share and share alike :) I don't like to get stuff like this 
without at least providing pictorial evidence of it's existence.


> Do me a favour and double-check the 286 CPU is in the socket properly
> will you? :) (I have a nasty feeling that chips can be put in those
> sockets in any orientation by the way - be careful)

They could in theory - they have notches which makes it tricky to do 
so, and it was playing up before I examined it :) As it is, I didn't 
move it.

> I notice from the photo the jumper's set to 1MB memory at the moment -
> just a thought but put it to 256KB as a test. Hopefully if there *is* a
> memory fault you'll get lucky and it'll be in the 768KB you switch
> off...

I'm not sure how that works, but I'll try it. Personally I think that 
the EPROM is failing to initialise to that stage.

> What's the empty DIL socket for next to the ULA? Any ideas? (just
> curious)

I'd wondered about that - as you'll know the 32016 also has one. I 
think that it was either to install a math processor, or possibly a 
test probe socket.

> you tried the known-good B+ board from the ACW though didn't you? 
> Hooked
> up to the 286 copro board and the ROMs from the ABC swapped in?

Well, I could put the BOS ROM in the ACW and try that, but I'm 
confident that the 4.87V is sufficient to run the 286.

> OK so B+ board fault is ruled out, at least as far as te copro's
> concerned; make sure you rule out cable and PSU too. Double-check CPU
> socket. Other chips have been reseated...

*nods* I will try the PSU from my Z80 copro. It will probably be 
reliable.

> OK, possible memory fault. Possible ULA fault (yuck). Possible ROM 
> fault
> (also yuck). CPU clock problem (do you have a 'scope to check that?) or
> CPU fault itself.

ULA - we can probably discount that as swapping the ULA between it and 
the Z80 made no difference either way - Z80 works fine, 286, cursor.

> When you get access to an eprom reader you'll be able to see if you can
> at least get data from the roms. (thought - you didn't accidentally put
> the roms back in the wrong order did you? The one with the orange
> sticker was nearest the ULA in the photo you sent me the other day)

I haven't removed the EPROMs, merely lifted them slightly then reseated 
them. The 286 board is quite flexible so I don't want to put too much 
pressure on it.

> Oh, what's the 2-pin header for by the ribbon connector? Looks to read
> "IR SW1"?

I'm guessing it was intended for if the card was used outside of an 
ABC, but I'm not sure. I cleaned some dirt/corrosion from nearby with 
no effect.

If anyone has a B+ board spare, I'm up for having a go at adding the 
video header - it's only five or six pins. The other connectors won't 
be significantly more fiddly just as normal!

Richard
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Richard Kilpatrick
Older than most of his computers, but not by enough to know better.
Acorn: '82 to '98. Atari: '79-84. Apple: '84-04 (no Apple //, for 
shame!).
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