Date   : Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:03:08 +0100
From   : "Ian Wolstenholme" <BBCMailingList@...>
Subject: Re: anybody use awServer?

The disc archiver I used a while ago to back up my Winchester
to floppy copied it by sectors rather than replicating the directory
structure which is much quicker (compare *BACKUP with *COPY *.*
for instance).  However this was an ADFS to ADFS copy so I am not
sure about backup operations across filing systems, you probably
can't copy an Econet partition of a disc by sectors onto floppy.

Best wishes,



Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob
To:  bbc-micro@...
Sent:  Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:44:43 +0100
Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro] Re: anybody use awServer?

At 00:09 11/07/2006, Jonathan Graham Harston wrote:
>
>Rob <robert@...> wrote:
> > It all seems to work, however restoring the backup gets me lots of
> > corruption - specifically, files are truncated!  8K ROM images come
> > out fine, for instance, but 16K images arrive at about 9K in
>
>It's a problem with NetFS 5.78. You need NetUtils. "The NetUtils
>module ensures the correct behaviour of NetFS on extending files.
>Failure to use the NetUtils module may result in the loss of data.
>Note that it *is* still required with RISC OS 3.11".
>
>There's a copy in my minimal boot systems at
>http://mdfs.net/System/Apps/
>It needs to be run as a task on boot. Putting it (or a link to it)
>in Boot:Choices:Boot.Tasks would do it.

Cheers, I'll look at that later on.  I've not really fiddles around 
much with the boot side of this yet; this  A5000 is still just set up 
as it came to me, which looks to be pretty close to Vanilla,.  I'm 
new to RISC OS and really only intended to use it as a fileserver, 
though I may end up trying to link to to the ethernet at some point 
(if I can find a card, or serially otherwise) just to assist with 
file transfers.


>
> > The backup was made using a prog called "Archive" and is restored
>
>I had a look at that when I first found it and dropped it
>immediately. I archive my MDFS with BBCZip:
>    *Zip -adfs-$.Apps/zip -net-:Apps.$ -p Apps -r -X
>though it doesn't span across disks at the moment.

If I get to the point where I actually need to back it up again I'll 
consider that; the advantage of Archive is of course that it did span 
discs - 23 of them in this case ...

(It's just so flaming slow as it head seeks at each swap between FS, 
which is at the start of every file, and with 1K viewdata frames you 
get a lot per disc ..)


>
> > I've also tried Level 3 using the GoMMC as a hard disc, but the
>
>My GoMMC Master has a Z80 CoPro plugged in externally and an ARM
>CoPro internally. I need to get around to deciding whether to swap
>the Z80 for a 6502 and play around with L3FS.
>
> > John's patches don't support the OSWORD &72 command &1A - Mode sense,
> > so it can't get the size of the drive.  I'll have to hack this about
>
>Just enter the drive size manually.

It actually seems to want heads/cylinder information so it can create 
it's free space map.  It's got the size already, from sector 0, so I 
changed it to calculate some suitable values from that instead.  The 
GoMMC disc initialised OK now, and it installed everything 
fine.  Just ignored stations trying to log into it..   Since I got L4 
working I've not persued this one yet; I don't particularly want to 
tie up the GoMMC in a fileserver anyway.



>
> > So... sorry it's a bit OT (Where else should I ask?) but has anybody
> > else had any similar issues with awServer or raFS - I'm not sure
> > which one is causing the problem - truncating files?
>
>I've used SoftMDFS which is a modification of awServer to add MDFS
>functions. I've never noticed any problems, though I've never used
>it with raFS holding the exported data. I have had the exported
>data in ZIP files, and that worked fine.

Is this available anywhere?

Cheers!

Rob