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Date   : Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:01:40 +0100
From   : bbcmailinglist@... (Ian Wolstenholme)
Subject: Small help needed with initialising a L3 hard drive

The CF cards I have been using are Kingston ones, and they've worked
fine in the CF Hard Drive (notwithstanding the FS Error 53 business mentioned
previously). They are 4GB, much too big for the purpose really, but they
were on special offer at 7 Day Shop when I bought them, less than the
2GB ones.

Best wishes,



Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Ford [mailto:acorn@...]
To: bbc-micro@...
Sent: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:16:11 +0100
Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro] Small help needed with initialising a L3 hard drive

Thanks to everyone for advice so far.

I have tried using the Master's internal co-pro as well but with no luck 
unfortunately.

Anders, the 64mb card is a Kodak actually, I grabbed it off ebay as 
there seemed to be shortage of small cards from UK suppliers (as I 
wanted quick delivery) , I did not give a lot of thought to the brand as 
it was a well known one.

I should add, I have no problem at all using either card or either 
physical hard drive with ADFS, they work fine. :)

Ian, I had already thought of that. ;) The routines I have (you will 
have these too cfbackup and cfrestore) , do not "appear" to take in the 
L3 partition unfortunately. I had already tried this a while ago by 
cheating via Beebem (creating various size drives installing L3 etc) , 
but the utilities do not seem to take account of the L3 partition too.

As it "should" work with a small card (64mb so 32mb usable) I think I 
may see about getting another different brand CF card later as perhaps I 
have just been unlucky with my choice :) , although I do have a good 
home for it in the DC instead actually so its not going to go to waste.


Andy. :)


Ian Wolstenholme wrote:
> Just another thought - is it possible to take a full image of an
> ADFS-formatted and Econet-partitioned CF card?  Perhaps then somebody
> who has all the hardware necessary to make up cards of different sizes
> (ie. me) could create images which people could write to the CF card on
> their PC and cut out the HDINIT and WFSINIT business.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Ian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy Ford [mailto:acorn@...]
> To: bbc-micro@...
> Sent: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:59:41 +0100
> Subject: [BBC-Micro] Small help needed with initialising a L3 hard drive
>
> Good evening. :)
>
> I know this has been discussed a few times, I did a search and read the 
> threads I found but I am still struggling a little bit with this, its 
> starting to drive me crazy as its such a simple thing too. :)
>
> I am unable to initialise a disk for Level 3, I am currently using the 
> latest version of WFSINIT from JGH's site (the one that reads the disk 
> size so ideal for IDE interfaces if it cannot read the disk geometry) , 
> I have tried other versions of this but the latest one seems to be the 
> best one.
>
> However, I do not seem to be able to get this to work properly.
>
> I have tried two (physical) drives, one is 4.3Gb and the other just over 
> 1Gb. Now, there is no problem whatsoever with formatting these via 
> HDINIT and using them as normal drives. The same with my CF card (which 
> is a 1Gb card so 512 or so formatted) , I can happily use this for ADFS 
> as well without any issue.
>
> My problem is despite trying everything, WFSINIT will fail with the 
> usual Dim Space error at line 350 :(
>
> No problem I thought. I would simply cheat and obtained a small (64Mb) 
> flash card. I formatted this and it gave me about 31Mb, which is plenty. 
> The problem with this (note: this same problem happens with both HDINIT 
> and WFSINIT) , it cannot read the size for some reason...
>
> What happens with HDINIT is this: If I investigate the drive, it finds 
> the correct size and I can format it, no problem there. Now, if I 
> attempt to scan for size, it counts to 32768 and then locks the machine 
> up (caps lock etc has no effect, I have to Break out of it)
>
> The WFSINIT routine locks at the same point too, I am wondering what's 
> the best option really at this point, I assume the modifications to 
> WFSINIT are simply the change of code to allow it to find the size 
> instead of geometry (as per Scan For Size in HDINIT)
>
> As a quick note: I do my usual preparation first (copy the FS code to 
> the hard drive and reserve about 1Mb with some temporary files, compact 
> it and then hard reboot before going any further)
>
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as usual :)
>
>
> Andy.
>
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