Date   : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:55:01 +0100
From   : mfirth@... (Michael Firth)
Subject: Plans for the Econet Island @,Acorn World 09?

Rob wrote:
> On 16/08/2009, Michael Firth <mfirth@...> wrote:
>   
>> If the total on the Econet island is only 8, then having 4 dedicated Cave
>> machines seems a bit much, given that there is also the Econet Atom which
>> will take one of the remaining 4 places due to being a curiosity.
>>     
>
> Well, at the end of the day, it IS tied to a Gaming show ... so we
> should be showing off some games, and what better than econetted
> games!
>
> What other networked games are there other than Cave and JGH's
> Muggins?  I did start a MUD, a long time ago, but it was never really
> got to a point where it was really worth playing, and while I think I
> can locate the discs, I thnk I remember that it needs another
> Beeb+6502 2P to act as sever.
>
>   
I'll have one of those there, in the form of my B+ with its ReCo6502. If 
you've got a copy of the code, we can give it a whirl.

I guess if your BeebEm code is stable enough, then you could experiment 
with a BeebEm hosted server too...
>   
>> With only 3 spaces, there isn't likely to be much room for showing BeebEm
>> plus some traditional BBC Stations. Certainly the A3020s / A5000 are likely
>> to have to be relegated to an inaccessible location as 'server only'.
>>
>> I guess if we don't make the Cave network seperate then we could perhaps
>> have something along the lines of 2 permanent Cave clients, with some of the
>> other BBCs able to run as additional clients if they're not needed / wanted
>> for
>> something else.
>>     
>
> If we are that limited to space, then yep, that makes sense ...
>
> We'll need some notices I think ... *I AM 245 CAVE for cave, *I AM 240
> HOST for bbs, etc ..
>   
That sounds like a good plan, though it depends on whether visitors are 
expected to work that out for themselves, or whether the exhibitors will 
be choosing what runs on what machines.

A simpler option may be to build a boot menu that lists what's 
available, and does the necessary *I AM commands.
>> What does everyone else think?
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
>> If I can get BeebEm for Linux talking AUN in time*, I'll be able to have my
>> Netbook running BeebEm talking to my A3020, which could be a small
>> station in addition to the 8.
>> I guess the question then is whether we need to join the two AUN Ethernets
>> together.
>>     
>
> I don't see why not.  We'll have 'net access available, into which
> I'll plug my VoIP router to give us phone lines for the BBS.  The
> other side of that gives us a nice clean subnet to plug the AUN BBS
> machines into, rather than competing for IP addresses with whatever
> else the hotel has on their network, so you can link into that with no
> problem.
>
>   
Sounds fine, what IP addresses are you using?

My network currently has the slightly unusual range of 10.123.45.x, due 
to various dumb peer-to-peer applications looking like they try to make 
connections to 192.168.1.x or 10.0.0.x inside your firewall. I guess 
worst case I can try and throw a small (real IP) router in, but it would 
be easier not to have to bother.

Forgot to comment on the other bits on the first reply, sorry :-)


Regards

Michael