Date   : Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:53:29 +0000
From   : darren.grant@... (Darren Grant)
Subject: Who the message is from...

On 8 Nov 2009, at 11:14, Michael Firth wrote:

> Would that really be the case?
>
> If the majority view is that the current mailing list doesn't meet  
> most
> peoples needs, wouldn't most people move to a new list that did?

The trouble is not everyone agrees, and it seems silly to me to dump  
the list that James has been providing all these years just because of  
how the reply-to header has been sent.
I for one appreciate that James provides this list and am willing to  
just put up with it the way it is as the list is very useful. Starting  
a rebellion and forming a new list seems like an overreaction to me  
and it would result in some people not bothering to subscribe to a new  
list especially people who only look in on an irregular basis.

> One other option would be to cross-subscribe the two lists, so that  
> any
> postings sent to the new list were forwarded to the old list, and any
> sent to the old list appeared on the new list.

Oh far to messy.

>
> I think that somehow we need to get a poll of what people want, but I
> don't know the best way to set such a poll up.

I don't think it is really necessary, there are better things to worry  
about.

> If people want a new list, I'm happy to set one up, I have unlimited
> free mailing lists with my Web hosting, and, being based on the  
> standard
> modern list software, they should behave the same as all other modern
> mailing lists.

There are plenty of places you can get free mailing lists such as  
yahoo groups etc and I think if people were that annoyed about how the  
reply-to works the list would have been moved a long time ago. I think  
one of the main advantages of this list over those provided by ISP's  
is the complete lack of commercials not even on the archive page.

It is far better that the list stay in one place so that new people  
don't have to figure out that there are two lists and which one should  
they subscribe to.

We are a relatively small list and the upheaval of moving does not  
seem worth the effort. I have however sent a message to James to see  
what his opinion is, he doesn't seem to be particularly active on the  
list himself so he might be willing to have someone else take on the  
list by moving the whole thing in one go.

If the list were to be moved then the best way IMHO would be to move  
the mailman files to a new server so that nobody needs to re-subscribe  
and everything just carries on as before but then have the option to  
change settings.

Regards
Darren