Date : Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:15:03
From : darren.storer@... (Storer, Darren)
Subject: [BeebSoc] Auntie, dear Auntie
Hi,
the DVB specifications (for the likes of Freeview and Freesat) allow for
traditional teletext in the vertical blanking interval (VBI) but the UK TV
stations decided to kill the medium off (grrrrrr), whilst many of our
European cousins still receive full teletext services via their digital
broadcasts.
Wasn't NICAM originally used for BBC radio links (NICAM 3) before the NICAM
728 spec was drawn up for TV use? Not sure that NICAM was an internal BBC
development though.
Cheers
Darren
On 1 August 2011 13:11, Mick <rs423@...> wrote:
> Rick Murray wrote:
>
>> On 31/07/2011 00:36, Mick wrote:
>>
>> Nonsense! Who developed Teletext???
>>>
>>
>> Granted, the Beeb developed teletext, but IIRC it was intended for
>> captioning rather than pages of information; although it did pretty well at
>> both tasks in the end.
>>
> So the original intention was not for public use? Captioning for what? Do
> you mean subtitles? . It still shows forward thinking and ability to adapt.
> Could you ever imagine the 'ATV Micro' appearing in the 80's? These days
> sponsorship is rife and it would more likely have been the Lloyds Micro, but
> back then?. Also, the BBC actively encouraged internet use. Remember
> beeb.net? It was a welcome alternative to high AOL / Compuserve charges.
> It didn't compete very well at the end, but did okay to start with.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Just a damn shame there's no accessible data feed on the digital text.
>>
> I agree. It surely would have been possible you have kept the old system
> and transcoded digital data to screen lines this assuming your TV allows the
> text function through an external input. I really don't like nor use the new
> glossy (lossy?) text services. I dial the page number for text. Wait...
> wait... wait...#Press text to enter... Wait...Wait... Then get a very
> unsatisfying menu containing nothing I want. Worth the wait? Nah! At least
> with original Ceefax, you get / got a rotating number so you have some idea
> when your page is / was due, plus an index page full of items of interest.
> Text dies (archives aside) on the 18th of April 2012 (Crystal Palace) as far
> as I'm concerned. It's replacement a mere shadow of what it one was. Even if
> the technology worked, the content is not there.
>
>
>
> ......My satellite decoder, a basic little Silvercrest jobbie, actually
>> has sufficient memory available to cache an *entire* service, and it
>> snapshots it in realtime.
>>
> Very nice. Is there any way of saving the complete cache to media?
>
>
>
>
> So if I tune to a channel, and let the page counter roll around, I can
>> then call up *any* static page instantly, from memory. The only thing I need
>> to wait on are subpage refreshes.
>>
> You could save sub pages with a beeb.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Who developed NICAM.
>>>
>>
>> No, the BBC commissioned it for internal networks.
>>
> So without Auntie, it probably wouldn't have existed? That's enough for me.
> :-P
>
>
>
>
>> I love Auntie and always will.
>>>
>>
>> I wish Auntie would stop trying to do ratings wars with commercial
>> stations.
>>
> I so agree with that one. I also think they should scrap Deadenders.
> Perhaps they could end it like they did Waggoner's Walk and have a UFO
> land. Or a massive gas explosion that kills everyone in an instant. If the
> telly is on in the background and Emmerdale Farm comes on, I may just leave
> it on depending on my grumpy rating that day, ditto Coronation St. But...
> as soon as I hear the first drum beat of the Deadenders theme sheer panic
> sets in. I rush around like a headless chicken trying to find the remote
> (even though I had it 5 seconds before) to turn it off. I couldn't react any
> quicker of my life depended on it.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> [btw, did I just see an advert for Big Brother on C5? won't that
>> f***ing programme just DIE already!?!?]
>>
>
> Really? How awful. Never trust promises made by a commercial organization.
> Perhaps it's a repeat ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Close down 6 music?
>>>
>>
>> I don't want to sound like an old git (yet), but I never *ever* in all my
>> years, "got" Radio 1..........
>>
>
> Being into punk, I only ever listened to John Peel (RIP) on radio 1. It was
> only in the 90's I really got into BBC radio. Namely GLR. Some idiot manager
> girl at the BBC then crawled out from under her rock and promptly killed it
> !!!! Sigh :-( Her new baby / re incarnation of the station"London Live"
> lasted about six months I believe.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Anyway, if I had to cull a random BBC station, I might consider Radio 1
>> extra;
>>
> You'd be their only listener :-D Perhaps you should try radio 2.
>
>
>
> Mick.
>
>
>
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