Date : Fri, 03 Jan 2014 00:00:00 -0000
From : blip@... (John)
Subject: Modernisations
Hi All
Firstly thank you all for your thoughts on this. I know you are busy people.
It is a delight actually when the list 'comes alive'.
Oh - and a belated New Year, hope it's a good one for you and your families
so far.
To some of the points:
It is agreed that a hotchpotch arrangement of RGB to VGA then VGA to HDMI is
a non-starter? (I know John K. would lose sleep over such an arrangement in
any case ;) )
- for what it's worth it would look a mess to me also.
I did look briefly at the RGB to HDMI idea, but some of the technical
discussions I found seemed to dismiss it out of hand, so even with my
critical head on, it looked a non-starter.
- it does make me wonder if there might have been another industry
application for such a device, so although it clearly looks a bit
Frankenstein to the list, perhaps it's out there already.
- here's another thought - with the falling prices of TVs, there are a lot
of semi-redundant small flat screen TVs out there, so a market exists (for
us). So whilst I agree with JK about monitors and HDMI, I sort of disagree
as well about TV.
I have bought a couple of these VGA converters. One (Maplin?) was pants (and
to be clear, the person on the list who kindly sent it, also thought it was
pants). One was sort of ok, the quality seemed a bit fuzzy from memory. I
didn't use it much before the BBC died on me. Someone who lives nearby has
kindly offered to help fix it, so I might have a more technical opinion
shortly.
On the other matter, I looked at the Retroclinic solution and whilst it
looks nicely flexible, it is (to me) a lot of money. The other solution
(using an card reader via the user port) looked cheap and tolerable, if not
quite as elegant as JKs GoMMC.
I tried to fit the GoMMC to a BBC+ and made a mess of it. I don't know if
the documentation has improved, I'll recheck once the BBC+ is working again
(it died for a different reason). It was quite a long time ago now, but I
remember struggling to find much on the layout of the BBC+ 64k/128k. I know
at one point I managed to 'lose' 64k - perhaps a bad connection on that
extra board on the right or messing around with the system ROMs for the
GoMMC I don't know.
Kind regards
John T.
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Jason Flynn G7OCD
Sent: 02 January 2014 22:28
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Subject: Re: [BBC-Micro] Modernisations
On 02/01/2014 20:20, John Kortink wrote:
> But as far as I'm concerned, even one flying lead is too many.
On the one hand, I'm inclined to agree: I like a neat solution. OTOH, part
of the Beeb culture has been the "have a go" and "organic" style so support
anything that might do something! :)
> Fair enough for TVs. But not many monitors will do it, and I think
> those should be the main target.
As far as a "market" is concerned, people looking for an HDMI solution
probably have a PC monitor in mind because a TV probably has a SCART which
can be adapted from RGB. So you're probably right, it would be niche.
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