Date   : Tue, 18 Jan 1983 17:25:36 EST (Tue)
From   : Rick Conn <rconn@brl.arpa>
Subject: [mwm: ZCPR2 availability]

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       Several have expressed concerns like these and similar questions.
Negotiations are currently underway in several areas to solve the problem.
ZCPR2 distribution is not going to be easy.  The source files alone
total to over 1M bytes, and the HLP files add another 250K+, and the
manuals ... well, you've seen a little of the manuals (only a little!).

       I won't go into details yet ... very little is finalized.
Two things I can guarantee ... RCP/M's will have ZCPR2 if they want it
and SIG/M will have it.

       One possiblity I am looking at is an arrangement like what Workman
is doing.  I still do not approve of selling public domain software
(especially without asking the author first), but I am willing to enter
into an arrangement where an organization like Workman's will provide
a distribution AND ASSISTANCE point for a VERY REASONABLE fee.  Note
the operative words.  I'm kind of bending my ideals by saying that
sale of ZCPR2 is OK under the following conditions:

               1. The price is reasonable.

               2.  The seller has my permission to do so.

               3.  The seller will provide technical assistance
to the customer.

               4.  The seller will provide hard copies of the manuals
with ZCPR2.

               5.  Under NO CONDITIONS am I to make one cent of profit
from it and it is to be understood that the software is in the public
domain and copyrighted by me.

       If such a distribution organization can be found, this could
be the best solution.  As for reasonable price, the chief cost will be
the manuals.  I hope that a price of $30 or so can be arrived at
(the distributer HAS to make some profit ... or does he?  Another point).
A meeting will take place (to which I've been invited) at CP/M '83
to discuss the future/directions/etc of public domain software and other
things.  Please don't ask me for permission to attend ... not my meeting
and I can't authorize anyone else to attend.  Ward Christensen, Sol Libes,
and others will be there, however, so the representation is quite good.

       Will post the net on the outcome of the meeting when I return
from San Francisco.

               Rick

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From: decvax!duke!uok!uokvax!mwm@Berkeley
Date: 18 Jan 83 01:36:41 PST (Tue)
Subject: ZCPR2 availability
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There are several of us down here in OK who would like to get copies of
ZCPR2. However, we are experiencing technical difficulties - like an arpanet
host w/out FTP.  Also, being among those who can't FTP com files, getting
sq'ed files is painful. I would therefore like to explore some alternate
possibilities.

First, how soon will it be possible to get an 8" disk with all the appropriate
files on it (or disks)? Late January? Where will this be avialable from?

Is there any possibility of getting a disk from directly from you? I would
gladly provide a diskette and postage both ways.

Finally (last hope): is there an RCP/M or cnode or whatever with the ZCPR2
files on it? If so, where (number/name), and how large are all the files?

Now, if only UUCP actually gets this to you...

       Thanx,
       <mike
       decvax!duke!uok!mwm@ucb





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