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Date   : Mon, 09 May 1983 00:47:05 EDT (Mon)
From   : Rick Conn <rconn@brl.arpa>
Subject: ZCPR2 and the PD

        This message is divided into three sections:

                ZCPR2 Distribution (and its problems)
                Public Education
                Conclusion and a Statement about the Public Domain

I thought this community may be interested in my comments.

I.  ZCPR2 Distribution

        It looks like a distribution system for ZCPR2 is  now  in
place.   It  has been quite an experience talking to groups about
ZCPR2, trying to lend some support to helping them get copies  of
ZCPR2  if  they  want it, and trying to do this without consuming
all of my time.  I think that something is finally  in  place  so
that if anyone wants a copy of it, they can get it.

        You can now get copies of the ZCPR2 distribution, in  one
form  or  another,  from  MIT-MC, Compuserve, Tymnet, SIG/M, some
RCPM systems, some computer clubs, and Workman.  All  have  their
tradeoffs  in  terms of time required by one who wants a copy and
cost, and both time and cost vary widely between these options.

        Computer clubs may be the best sources.  You go to a club
meeting with two boxes of disks, copy the disks, pay either noth-
ing or a token fee (which is usually used to further support club
activities),  and  walk away with ZCPR2.  You now have the system
and can run it, but you may not have a hard copy of the  manuals.
That  is  another  matter  entirely.   If you have WordStar and a
printer, you can take the time and print the 400+  pages  of  the
manuals  from your disks.  If you club has the money (and can af-
ford to do it), you may be able to  buy  the  manuals  from  your
club.   Or, you may send off to the NYACC for copies of the manu-
als at $24 for the set.

        You can access one of the networks mentioned and download
the  ZCPR2 system.  This is VERY time consuming to say the least,
and, because we are talking about over 1.5M bytes of  files,  all
of  the  files (such as source code) may not be available anyway.
Again, you don't have hardcopies of the manuals, so you have  the
NYACC or WordStar and your printer as options again.  Access to a
network may cost you money in terms of computer time on  the  net
and phone costs or both.

        You can access an RCPM system and download the ZCPR2 sys-
tem.   This has the disadvantages of the network access (with the
difference that network access may cost you  money  for  computer
time  on the host).  It adds the disadvantage that only some RCPM
systems carry ZCPR2, and you have to find out  which  ones.   The
Lincroft,  NJ RCPM is the only one I know of that is carrying the
entire system, but I have heard that others may be, in one degree
or  another.   I have heard that many RCPMs don't carry ZCPR2 be-
cause of its size.

        You can send off to SIGM for the  disks,  at  a  cost  of
$6/disk ($84 for all of ZCPR2 and SYSLIB).  Again, you won't have
hardcopies of the manuals without taking additional steps.

        Finally, there is Workman, who is providing a source  for
both the disks and manuals.  His cost is high, and he is probably
making a profit.  All of the other sources (with the possible ex-
ception  of  the  networks)  are  non-profit organizations run by
volunteers.

        I have heard complaints  from  people  trying  to  obtain
ZCPR2  from remote-access systems, such as the RCPMs and the net-
works.  Time and phone costs are  the  issues  here,  and  people
don't  want  to  spend the time or money to get it.  I have heard
complaints from people who send off to SIGM about the time  delay
for  a  turnaround.   Now I am hearing complaints about Workman's
cost (and profit).

        All of the sources for ZCPR2 have their drawbacks, but  I
don't  fault  any of them.  They all have a right to do what they
are doing, and they are all providing a service to the community.
It  is  up  to  the members of the community to select the source
they desire to obtain it from and then expend the effort (and mo-
ney)  to  obtain  it.  My only complaint is that many people have
tried to minimize their effort and expense to the point of coming
directly  to  me  and  asking me to expend even more effort on my
part to copy the system for them.  This  minimizes  their  effort
and  maximizes  mine.  I have resisted this, and will continue to
do so.  My love and talent  is  in  designing  programs  such  as
ZCPR2,  not  in  spending time and effort in copying them.  Other
people like to do this sort of thing, and I  leave  it  to  them.
Ever  since  the  release of ZCPR2, I have been so inundated with
such overhead that all other work has stopped, and  this  stagna-
tion has to (and will) stop.


II.  Public Education

        A growing problem, which is that of education of the user
community,  is not easily solved, but there is an excellent move-
ment afoot which is trying to solve it.  Microsystems Magazine (a
Ziff  Davis  Publication) now has a regular column devoted to the
public domain, and an article specifically on ZCPR2 will  be  ap-
pearing  soon.  With a readership of 50,000, this magazine should
be able to do a lot of good in educating the community.   I  note
that  Byte  has  been noticably lacking in providing this service
(with the exception of Sol's column).  I also note  that  DR  has
been  taking  steps recently to support its user community, and I
hope this sets a good example and continues,  encouraging  others
along the way.


III.  Conclusion

        In conclusion, what I am trying to say is that  this  may
be the beginning of a new era for public domain software, and the
commercial arena can work together with the public in this.   Mi-
crosystems  is providing a forum for educating the public.  DR is
providing backing (in words only so  far,  but  this  is  a  good
start).   And  Workman  is providing an alternative to the public
domain as a reliable source.  Coupled with the  information  pro-
vided  by  Microsystems (and, maybe someday, Byte), Workman's ac-
tion is fair, since the public should now be educated  enough  to
view  Workman  as  one of a multitude of sources rather than as a
sole source.

        I feel that the public domain has been failing.  There is
too  much  me-ism  in  this country, and there are too few people
willing to put forth some effort for the public good.   The  col-
lapse  of CPMUG in Chicago and the fact that the ACG-NJ (with its
1100+ members) is run (including SIGM) by only a handful of  peo-
ple are two examples of the problem we are facing.  The fact that
some RCPMs prefer to provide no ZCPR2 service at all rather  than
making  some  attempt  is another example.  The fact that so many
people have tried to impose upon me to  provide  ZCPR2  for  them
rather than expending the added effort to get it thru channels is
a third example.  People naturally (it seems) tend to go  out  of
their  ways  to  minimize  their time, effort, and expense and to
maximize their gain regardless of what it costs  others.   If  we
only band together, as a public, and expend a little extra effort
on each of our parts for  the  public  good  (without  getting  a
direct  benefit  necessarily), the public domain would be so much
better for all of us.

        I feel that, unless something is done, the public  domain
system  may  collapse  completely.  The user community is growing
rapidly  while the public domain continues  to  be  supported  by
just  a  few.   As more users become aware of it, make demands on
it, those few will become so inundated with work  that  they  may
become  discouraged and give up.  I have already experienced such
feelings, and am sure others have as well.


                                        Rick
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