Date   : Fri, 02 Dec 1983 20:12:55 EST
From   : Dave Towson (info-cpm) <cpmlist@brl-vgr>
Subject: [Ted Shapin: Non-commercial]

Well folks, I've taken it upon myself to make a judgement call on this one.
Although the price is a bit higher than comparable public domain software
from other sources, I nevertheless consider this to be a service and not a
commercial venture.  I've had a number of messages from unhappy folks who
can't FTP, and this is one way for them to enjoy some of the goodies many
of can have for five minutes of keyboard punching.  Thanks, Ted.

Dave


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From: Ted Shapin <BEC.SHAPIN@usc-ecl>
Subject: Non-commercial
To: info-cpm-request@brl
Postal-address: Beckman Instruments, Inc.
Postal-address: 2500 Harbor X-11, Fullerton, CA 92634
Phone: (714)961-3393

I am sending this to you first so I can be sure you regard this as
non-commercial.
I have uploaded the FORTH-83 files to SIMTEL20 but have been getting
other requests for copies from people who can't FTP.
Ted.
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I have loaded the F83 files I have to SIMTEL20 MICRO:<CPM.FORTH-83>.
I have also sent the 8080 version to the SIG/M User Group in New
Jersey for addition to their library.  For people who can't access
the above and want another source, here is a copy of an information
sheet handed out at the October 1983 FORTH Interest Group Convention
in Palo Alto, CA.  I am sending it to indicate another source for
these files. I do not consider it to be a "commercial announcement".
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                        WELCOME TO FORTH
     This implementation of the 1983 FORTH standard was begun in
October 1982 by Mike Perry and Henry Laxen.  Our motivation was
to produce a high quality system that would serve as a model for
vendors and other implementors of FORTH systems based upon the
1983 standard.  We have made it our policy to cooperate with any
vendor who desires to use this model as part of their own FORTH
based product, and intend to continue to do so.  In order to
promote widespread distribution of this model, we have placed it
in the public domain, and encourage use, reproduction, and
improvement, especially the latter.

     We would like to thank many of the local, and not so local
FORTH Interest Group members who have made many valuable
suggestions, discovered bugs, and recommended improvements.
First and foremost we would like to thank Kim Harris for his
support and encouragement, and for the fact that he would not let
us get away with anything questionable.  We would also like to
thank the following who contributed to the FORTH 83 model effort:

Martin Tracy, Wil Baden, John James, Alfred Tang, Steve Taylor,
John Hall, Mike Brockman, Robert Berkey, Daniel Kelley, Gerry
Grismore, Michael Gwilliam, Craig Gonter, Evan Rosen, Stephen
Maguire, Ted Shapin, Owen Thomas, Joel Wittenberg, and others
who have helped along the way.

     Machine readable version of these listings are available on
the following formats:

1. 8080 CP/M-80 Model on 8" Single Sided, Single Density (2 disks)
2. 8086 CP/M-86 Model on 8" Single Sided, Single Density (2 disks)
3. 8086 MS-DOS Model on 5.25" Double Sided, Double Density IBM PC
format (2 disks)

Be sure to specify the format you want, and don't bother asking
for any other than those listed above.  All are available as is,
with no support, handholding, questions, warranties, guarantees,
assurances, refunds, or any recourse whatever for $25.00 from:

                No Visible Support Software
                PO Box 1344
                2000 Center Street
                Berkeley, CA 94704

        Best of luck to you, and may the FORTH be with you.

Henry Laxen                                     Mike Perry

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