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Date   : Sat, 14 Jul 1984 12:55:00 MDT (Sat)
From   : Keith Petersen <W8SDZ@Simtel20.ARPA>
Subject: [brutlag: KERMIT ON TELENET]

This may help MODEM7 users who are accessing hosts via TELENET.
--Keith

Date: Sunday, 17 June 1984  21:53-MDT
From: Doug Brutlag <brutlag at USC-ECL.ARPA>
To:   Info-Kermit at MIT-MC, cc.fdc at COLUMBIA-20.ARPA,
Re:   KERMIT ON TELENET

Frank,

       Another way to get KERMIT to transfer files on TELENET is to
configure TELENET to transmit the eighth bit.  Most TELENET nodes are
set up for 7 bit communications only.  You can set up eight bit mode, by
connecting to your host, then escape back to TELENET (with cr @ cr) and
giving the command:

SET? 0:33,63:0

       The 0:33 parameter allows you to set certain ITI parameters
normally not used by TELENET users.  The ITI parameter 63 enables the
eighth bit when set to 0 (contrary to what is written in the TELENET
documentation by the way).  I have found this setting useful for both
KERMIT file transfers and for using a terminal with a META key for
setting the eighth bit for EMACS editing commands.  If this fails you
should call the TELENET 800 number to find out how to allow eight bit
communications for your node.  SOme nodes use old TELENET protocols
which require setting parameter 57:1 as well.  If you have many people
using KERMIT via TELENET you can have your TELENET representative change
your local node to make the default setting of parameter 63 be 0.

       By the way I do not encourage people to use KERMIT via TELENET
because of the delay in receiving the ACK/NAK.  Even with an unloaded
network and 1200 baud nodes at either end, the delay in receiving the
ACK/NAK effectively lowers the transmission speed from 1200 baud to less
than 300 baud.

Doug Brutlag

[Ed. Note - We will try to work out a "sliding window" option for the
Kermit protocol over the summer.  This should speed things up a bit,
assuming it can be widely implemented.]
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