Date : Thu, 12 Apr 1990 13:35:56 GMT
From : pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!sharkey!wyn386!danielw@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Daniel Wynalda)
Subject: CP/M sofware for packet radio and TCP/IP
In article <21614@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> bowen@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Devon E
Bowen) drivels:
>In article <21974@bellcore.bellcore.com>, karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil
>Karn) writes:
>> Fine. My code is freely available to any and all hams.
>
>Does this sound snotty to anyone else or is it just me? The original post
>asked a very simple question. He just wanted to know if anyone had done any
Frankly, I don't understand how someone would DARE CRITICIZE someone who
puts as MUCH TIME and EFFORT into this hobby as does Phil.
In plain and simple terms, Phil DID SAY "If you think it can be done - do it
yourself. That is why he stated his code is available to ALL.". One of
ham-radio's objectives is the promotion of the ADVANCEMENT of radio art.
You would be hard pressed to find another who has put in as much time and
effort as Phil toward this goal.
>any degree. And instead of a polite "no, no one is working on that but you
>are welcome to if you like" he gets this lecture on how his computer isn't
>worth using and he should buy a PC. When he says he likes his computer he
He said "It costs $60 for a PC motherboard." Frankly, people who write
code like Phil's make ALOT more than that per hour. I realize some people
don't, but at some point you CAN'T RETROFIT EVERY COMPUTER.
Don't take this like I favor tossing old computers, just know the limits.
My executable for ka9q is about 700K. There is NO WAY you are going to
get that running on a 64K Z80 CPM machine. If there was, I'd be glad to
run it on my old stuff. (By the way, I have a TRS-80 Model 4, 6 Televideo
800A's, and Televideo 816, and a bunch of other junk laying around if anyone
wants to play with old equipment.).
The 816 is a 16 port Z80 based MPM system with 40MB hard drive and 40MB
tape drive. Interested????? I'll let it go CHEAP.
>Anyone in this hobby that says something like this in this day and age does
>not deserve the shit this guy is getting back for it. And he's getting it
>from those people pushing the most for a no-code license to get more doers
>into ham radio!!! [not meant to imply I am pro-code]
Woe! I won't even bother. Frankly anyone who abuses Phil for being
honest doesn't deserve his own words.
>
>This is no fun anymore.
>
Ahhhh.. Something we agree on. :-)
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