Date : Thu, 12 Apr 1990 18:51:06 GMT
From : unmvax!ariel!carina.unm.edu!cs2591aq@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (aNk1ez)
Subject: Non-Intel Bashing...
In article <5307@balu.UUCP> tilmann@cosmo.UUCP (Tilmann Reh) writes:
>The Z280 will be released as a 12.5 MHz version this May. True.
>But as Zilog says, a 25 MHz version will never appear. Sigh.
Phooey. that would be fun.
>However, a Z80-CMOS with 20 MHz (5 MIPS) is available NOW!
>Needs quite fast Cache-RAMs to operate, I guess...
I didn't even know there was one.. time to give Zilog a call and get
some info..
BTW: I was going thru the back of Byte Mag. and i noticed in the Z80 section
of stuff you could order, a chip dubbed "Z8400HB1 <Cpu 8MHz.>" what the
heck is that chip? anyone have some info? would be nice to find out what
it does...
>This guy from Denmark had the bad luck of buying a CP/M-68K system. Although
>quite small and fast, this OS never reached the popularity of CP/M-80
>(2.2/3.x), of which we are talking when saying just 'CP/M', and for which
>still new software is available.
True...True...But the 68000's are still very nice processors. I'm actually
quite surprised that CP/M-68K didn't get as popular as CP/M-Z80..
I hold the 680x0 line in the same regard as the Z80. its a nice, clean
powerful porcessor. I wouldn't mind getting a CP/M-68K machine...
(None of this Amiga/Macintosh/Atari ST easy-to-use-but-not-any-fun
machines that "Corporate America" is getting screwed with..tho,
i'd rather have those be the standard than these IBM crap.)
>Besides, if you take the PC & clone market away, there will be few who
>are using Intel processors. They all use 68K, 32K, Z80/180/8000, TMS9995 etc.,
>and they all know why! Very bad luck that IBM took these chips for their PC.
>But, if you have a look at PC architecture, it isn't even better than that
>of Intel processors. Every 10-year-old electronic hobbyist would have made
>a better design than IBM's 'high-tech' engineers (and would have taken better
>chips, also). Details are much too much to list here. Last but not least, the
>architecture and quality of the mostly-used OS on that machines fits CPU and
>and computer design. They probably found the worst OS for the worst computer
>based on the worst CPU, but that is now called 'industry standard'.
Hear Hear! Well, at least we can be proud to say that we're of a group that
knows better! I guess i can be content to use my Z80 machine and let
"Corporate America" get ****ed up the ***. Actually, the deserve
it. (i'm of the old world "Word Processor? Get a typwriter! Spreadsheet?
Get a calculator! Drafting? Get a bloody set of pencils!")
Techs / cs2591aq@carina.unm.edu aNk1e ByT0rz k1Ub common account.
And God said "Let segment:offset be your punishment for your sins..."
unfortunatly, the beauraucratic designers liked the idea.
pah.
End of INFO-CPM Digest V90 Issue #65
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