Date   : Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:58:16 +0100
From   : robert@... (Rob)
Subject: bbcdocs website problem

On 27 July 2010 04:32, Rick Murray <rick@...> wrote:
> ? 2. Opera
> ? ? ?Many people recommend this religiously, but it has a market share
> ? ? ?that never goes anywhere. It looks a fairly decent browser let down
> ? ? ?by some dumb design decisions. Beware of insane opinionated fans
> ? ? ?who will slap you down for saying Opera is a security risk because
> ? ? ?it does not offer NoScript-like behaviour, for said fans appear to
> ? ? ?think that NoScript blocks JavaScript and does NOTHING else.

I guess that's me ... So what does NoScript do that Opera natively
doesn't?  Whilst it's perhaps not quite as easy to use as NoScript
apparently is, reading it's website, Opera does offer a per-site
customisation of blocking Javascript, or limiting it's rights,
blocking plugins, flash, sound and animation, cookies, frames,
iframes, css, content blocking, browser-ID, etc.  After reading Rick's
comments on NoScript, I've taken to running default with most off, and
only enabling as needed.

>For me
> ? ? ?it has a tendency to instantly "give up" on a web page fetch,
> ? ? ?meaning you have to tell it to refresh. But since its content
> ? ? ?filtering is woeful and its ad blocking doesn't, I wouldn't
> ? ? ?recommend this either.

Works for me - The ad blocking is a learning type - if you see an ad,
right click it, select "block content" and it's bye-bye forever for
anything from that site.  You can download read-to-run lists of places
to block if you feel like it..

Oh, and it can also run firefox's greasemonkey scripts, as well as
it's own versions of user javascript and plugins and widgets.

>
> ? Chrome  and Firefox
I guess I'm the opposite to you - for all their apparent virtues, I
had terrible trouble with both of these being unstable, non-intuitive
and not having features I've got used to ..  Neither of them have made
me want to change over.   Oh, and I've not even got IE installed...

> You are aware most modern attacks are coming in via Flash and payloads
> in PDFs?

I got bitten by this recently.  I now run Foxit reader... that's when
I don't send online PDFs instead over to
http://docs.google.com/viewer?url= of pdf>


This is probably the wrong place for a browser war, however..!

Rob