Date   : Fri, 25 Jan 1985 15:22:01 GMT
From   : Rick Chinn <rzdz%fluke.uucp@BRL-TGR.ARPA>
Subject: Re: Need HELP with SUBMIT

> Please Help!!  I have been frustrated for some time with the SUBMIT
> function of CP/M.  I have a Vector Graphic 1600 system running CP/M
> 2.20.
> 

I don't think that you're the only person that submit has chosen to abuse. I
regularly have trouble with it, to wit: write a submit file, run it, it runs,
make one change, the whole thing bombs. Look at submit file with ddt, can't
find any bogus characters...give up...(if I had a dime for every hour I've
wasted, I could go to dinner at a *nice* restaurant)

I don't use submit anymore. I use microshell instead. It looks more like unix
anyway, and I've never had trouble with it not wanting to do what's in the
batch file. I also have another shell-type program called clip that does the
same sort of thing, and allows conditionals, more like a shell script would.
(neither are public domain, they're commercial programs)

If someone out there in net.land knows how to make submit do something
useful, please let me know. I'm very tempted to do this:

    a> era submit.com

Rick Chinn
John Fluke Mfg. Co MS 232E
PO Box C9090 Everett WA 98206

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